Nuevo Libro Magia en Movimiento: MJ a través del cine y los videojuegos. Toni Arias 'Xtarlight'

[FlyAway58]

Al hilo de la peli de Peter Pan de Spielberg que rescaté un post en que se hablaba someramente de ello-que Michael básicamente rechazó el papel protagonista en la película Hook porque en esta versión se había hecho adulto; y entonces repasando también por encima, los capítulos del libro donde podría aparecer el tema (no lo encuentro) , mi duda es esa: ¿en qué capítulo se aborda* la problemática de Michael y Spielberg con respecto al proyecto cinematográfico anterior a Hook, en el que se planteaban ambos realizar una película del famoso icónico personaje previa a la aludida con el actor Robin Williams?

* si es que se hace, que ahora mismo no recuerdo, uuups!

Si y tambien lo rechazó porque cambiaron totalmente el argumento, creo, no recuerdo bien el capitulo, pero hubo un dilema con los derechos de autor o algo asi, deberia releerlo.
En el libro An Agoraphobic's Guide to Hollywood: How Michael Jackson Got Me Out of the House, la autora dice algo asi como que Michael le daba mucha vuelta al asunto, como queriendole echar la culpa de las demoras.
La versión que hizo Robin Williams no encaja con Michael, ni con el relato original del libro, mas mas bien es una version libre.
Pero se me hace chocante un hombre de la edad de RW con mayas y volando.

 

[pussycontrol]

Sí , verle con esa edad y aspecto sobre todo viejuner no encaja, no.
Luego la película sí que me gustó a pesar de ello.

 

[levis]

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Re: Magic in Motion: MJ through Film and Video Games. Toni Arias 'Xtarligh'

Xtar man, I'd like to tell you that I'm already on chapter 25; what you're saying is very interesting, dude, the wealth of very specific data on the topic you focused on when writing it. Congratulations, really!

Among many others, there is the fact that tap dancing was created by black slaves when a law in 1739 prohibited them from owning percussion instruments and they then had to create it with their own bodies: hands and, of course, feet.

That said, what I was getting at is that, as you also point out, MJ declared to Astaire himself that he got his inspiration from him: I've been reviewing some videos of the maestro to remember this but nothing (I'll keep looking ); what I have seen is this photo of the other king from whom MJ could have taken inspiration as well and which I imagine many of you around here will already be familiar with:

On the other hand, I was also struck by what you said about Landis saying that Michael danced the alley scene in the BOW video in the purest tap dance style and that he did it brilliantly. He added that he did it the way we finally see it because the script demanded it = his most typical dance style, as it is what the public would demand above all else. It's a shame that it wasn't leaked on YouTube in an unofficial making of that style!
He finally points out that in any case, in the official video itself, there is a small sample of that old-school tap dancing in the foot movements he makes just before breaking the glass bottle on the ground from the moment he steps onto the sidewalk of the lamppost, and it is true that at some point, everyone here will surely have been shocked by those steps that in fact differ in that sense from the rest.

ps: and here is the photo with Astaire on tiptoe.

This pose is Fred Astaire's inspiration, we see Jackie Wilson on the covers like that, Elvis in that movie, Michael later. Jackie Wilson named Mr Excitement and considered by MJ one of his inspirations besides J Brown, the one that inspired Elvis and was called the black Elvis..
Fred Astaire in this particular pose is on the first pages of his Moonwalk book, with the dedication to him.
Toe stand is ballet.

 

[pussycontrol]

besides J Brown, the one that inspired Elvis and was called the black Elvis..

Había escuchado que el Elvis negro era Jackie Wilson (o mejor: Elvis el Jackie Wilson blanco).

 

[levis]

I had heard that the black Elvis was Jackie Wilson (or better: Elvis the white Jackie Wilson ).

I know...I love Jackie Wilson. With his soft little moves, even the hip thrust was so barely seen, such a beautiful elegant voice and adorable facial features. When I see people still bitching about that sh*t that MJ denied his heritage I want to print into their soul the pages from his autobiography (and interviews) where he was writing about the monumental talent of the Apollo stage.

 

[pussycontrol]

Y ya que estamos:

 

[levis]

And while we're at it:

Thank you!

This is the origin of the backslide

Human dance has a lot of inspiration from the bird's moves used during their mating rituals. There is another bird of paradise I must search for it that,,dance,, like the original moonwalk- the gliding around yourself.
The ,,scooting,, move which we can see MJ doing it in Bad short or Rock with you live is inspired by the peacocks steps (or pheasants and even turkeys) when trying to impress their ladies.
We can see how the ballet was inspired by the cranes graceful moves and the great crested grebes mating ritual of dancing together in synchron and touching the water while doing it.
When I see MJ in Billie Jean I see a peacock, with his sparkling jacket (and in Rock with you short). He was inspired by nature too.
The way he is playing with his jacket...you can see it too in birds, even at parakeets.

I've tried to make a visual from this but my editing skills are lousy.

There is an episode among so many with Curly -The three stooges, and he is literally gliding back because of the spilled oil on a construction site.

I see the grace and the energy of a wild horse when MJ is appearing on stage with WBSS with his dancers like the riders of the storm, no wonder that he is saying iii'haa during the song break, also the same when he is hitting the stage with his left foot for starting Rock with you, in Dirty Diana towards the end Wembley 88 he is showing his teeth and he is moving like the black beauty that he is <3

 

[pussycontrol]

Sí, conocía su inspiración en la naturaleza, aves, reptiles como la serpiente (véase su inspiración en Bob Fosse de El Principito),...

Mi perspectiva, aún reconociendo la inspiración en tal fauna, está mas enfocada en verle en gran medida- como poppin dancer en la plena tradición de tal estilo y por supuesto en la biblia del jazz dance que es West Side Story, y que muestra cómo a su vez la danza humana quiere, anhela representar la naturaleza, la fuerza de la naturaleza: lo veo en ese impulso, entusiasmo de los bailarines de musical referido, (y en las coreos ensemble de Michael por supuesto: sus cuerpos), movimientos semejan velas desplegadas por el viento, y a cuyas figuras gráciles, esbeltas solo le queda alzarse del suelo y volar.

 

[levis]

I know you know, and there is a larger subject with animals and dance, even fight moves such as martial arts, gymnastics...
He had snakes, birds, tigers (his brother Jermaine had also a tiger) as you well know, Quincy said at one point that Michael was watching nature documentaries and studied the movements of panthers and antelope, I remember a tv lady said in one snippet about a particular Bad US concert that he is moving like a,,syncopated python"...

Those, Bob Fosse, moves are in fact a continuation of the blackface mask tradition as I pointed out in that article, these moves aren't created by him, he also took inspiration from all kinds of dance forms even European dance and so on. And MJ knew it, he knew this past tradition born from the ridicule of the black body, and he transformed it by sparkling the magic dust of positivity, at the same time doing edu-tainment, as one African-comedian says.
The same with the use of police badges and that big belt as ..fashion statement, symbols of power and oppression for the black community. Even the use of the white gloves is not without history, when going to Sunday church the slaves had to wear white gloves, with one hand hidden behind their backs to be seen if they wanted to steal something....He was treated with hate and contempt also because of this, those who knew understood his hints.
As a matter of fact there is an old video with two African-American kids that were performing a song outside, perhaps one, two adults with instruments and they were doing this pelvic move...it's very old and I didn't saved the link.
I like how he is totally connected with his voice and body and the gestures he makes with his hands and fingers sometimes, even his fingers were dancing along the rhythm.

A friend of mine to whom I've shown parts of some concerts said that no wonder he died so young because he was consuming himself totally on stage, look at him that he has no rest, he is like a storm, inside out,.
I don't know, I see beauty, every time I watch him, and I do this often, I understand why he is standing apart. ,,Beauty is a heart inflamed and a soul enchanted,, K. Gibran