Punto de inflexión en su baile.

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A ver, el chamo dice que la coreo de SC es fácil, y luego refiere que la inclinación en la coreo es difícil (pero si esto es un efecto visual en el short e incluso en vivo es una habilidad no danzística).

 

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Mi top 5 de coreos mas complicadas en los shorts/vídeos/actuaciones:

-Bad

-Smooth Criminal

-Ghosts

-Remember the time

-Dangerous (versión larga de los AMA del 93).

 

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Y los claqués que se marcó en los shows de tv de The Jacksons son realmente complicados, nivel top.

 

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Mira por donde, una entrevista mas o menis reciente con el coreógrafo del vídeo de Janet: The Pleasure Principle y que antes bailó en Captain Eo como parte de la formación de bailarines.
Interesantes sus anécdotas:

pd: se refiere a la troupé de Captain Eo como una skeleton crew, por cierto.

 

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Me encanta que esta mujer joven, siendo bailarina de clásico, comente que el don de Michael para bailar era único, de los que se dan una vez cada 100 años, cuando además uno piensa que todos los pasos de baile están inventados.

pd: odio el doblaje cuando traduce la canción de la letra al mismo tiempo que suena.

 

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offtopic muy relacionado:

"No nos pedía que diéramos lo mejor de nosotros, lo esperaba".

 

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At Pussycontrol and anyone willing to read this good article about the deep history of dance and MJ's choice of the choreography for Billie Jean and Black Panther, here is an amazing article. Based on a book.

So you will see that MJ goes way further into history than Astaire, Bob Fosse and so on. Seeing that he is accused of copying dance moves, it made me search deeper. Others are not accused of ,,copying, but they are graced with the words , influenced,,. Fred Astaire was taught by J Bubbles step dance and he had a choreographer, the shuffle everyone says that it's strictly James Brown can be seen at Jackie Wilson too, and I'm sure that Wilson wasn't the first to do this, the backslide was seen in vaudevilles from Chaplin to Curly from The three stooges ( i love him and I understand why MJ was so into these comedians), the cape was used by Jay Hawkins to Rufus Thomas to James Brown, it's a long line of influencing one another. The camel walk of J Brown was inspired by the duck walk of Chuck Berry and so on. And as we know MJ was a good student in reading the history of entertainment. He did everything with purpose.
I know his dancers stories, I read Patersons book and so on. For example Paterson or Colin Chilvers (the director of SC, RIP), or J Daniel's want to be acknowledged for the lean, but I saw the lean first when I was a kid in a Buster Keaton movie in a court room...and I noticed MJ doing a lean as far as early in Triumph tour when starting with the song Don't Stop...Anyway, it's a really good read!
P.S Thanks to MJ i've learned a ton about music and dance history...

Michael Jackson and the Blackface Mask, Part 2: Billie Jean and the Panther Dance

Lisha: Hello again, Harriet and Willa! In our last post, I feel like we covered so much ground in discovering how blackface minstrelsy is a much bigger phenomenon in American history than is genera…

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Aquí en España hubo un programa infantil que salía un personaje haciendo la inclinación:

Y en este vídeo de MacCartney también se sabe que el propio J.Daniels la realizó:

 

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Aquí en España hubo un programa infantil que salía un personaje haciendo la inclinación:

Y en este vídeo de MacCartney también se sabe que el propio J.Daniels la realizó:

Wow, thank you for the Spanish video! As for Paul's video, where is the lean? I watched it twice, and besides some Chuck Berry little steps I saw Paul playing with a stick / ,,sword,, and it's a natural move when you ,,stab,, yourself with a sharp object to fake ,, falling,, in front of you. I was playing like that when we were imitating Winnetou. Lol.

 

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Es este el link, del vídeo oficial:

 

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Thanks! I remember the song though, not the video. MJ really had mercury joints and grace. And that shoulder swing when moonwalking like a swan.

 

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Thanks! I remember the song though, not the video. MJ really had mercury joints and grace. And that shoulder swing when moonwalking like a swan.

Te expresas de manera muy chula y, por momentos, poética aún en prosa- como es el caso ahora.

 

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Te expresas de manera muy chula y, por momentos, poética aún en prosa- como es el caso ahora.

Oh, thanks...

Thanks for showing me Daniels in that clip. I saw him in others but not this one.
See, the difference between him as a dancer and MJ. His appearance here seems so random, no relation with the song. His moves are like a raw sketch or a ...technical paper and are rigid ( no shade at him, just my impression). MJ's moves are different, more fluid, and with sense with the song's story or an extension of the music's beat.
You know this interpretation of Billie Jean? As I suspected, he chosed the moonwalk to underline the idea of negation and retreat, plus the original moonwalk the circling around himself for the lyrics , I am the one, who will dance in a round...,,.

Gedanken über Billie Jean | all4michael

Das Buch „Thinking Twice About Billie Jean“ erzählt die Geschichte hinter dem Song & beschäftigt sich mit den tiefen Emotionen & der Bedeutung des Songs.

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You know this interpretation of Billie Jean? As I suspected, he chosed the moonwalk to underline the idea of negation and retreat, plus the original moonwalk the circling around himself for the lyrics ,

¿Dónde se puede ver concretamente? ¿A cuál te refieres en específico?

 

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Where can you see it specifically? Which one are you referring to?

It's OK. I was trying to talk about the fact that MJ used such moves to illustrate the story of a song, and I found this interpretation/analysis of the Billie Jean lyrics. In the article I left. So it gives sense to the use of moonwalk...

It saddens me how he is treated, at least since the news of the biopic started, anyone who worked with him behaves I don't know, differently. I saw last night a short from an interview with Paterson that left me with a bitter taste. He was pissed that he is not acknowledged for the lean. That this MJ's pose is his idea, but he is pissed mainly because from the dolls and other stuff that are sold he doesn't get a penny. Of course this is used against MJ and the title of the short was in caps lock,,he invented the lean!"....reading his book is like he is subtly suggesting that MJ can be blamed for the way things are working with choreographers within the industry.
I mean I don't see such attitude towards Madonna and according to him he literally taught her how to be sexy, how to crawl like a cat, any move and so on. With MJ it was collaboration, as some they say you fed him one idea he had three in plus. But he is dead, right?

 

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Ok, but it's in german, the text you linked.

 

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Ok, but it's in german, the text you linked.

I use the translator, I don't know this language too...I was glad when I found this blog because it preserves some articles that seems to be gone from the internet. If it's easier you can find the comments under this book Thinking twice about Billie Jean by Veronica Basil on Amazon I think, especially the comments left by Raven Woods. If they are still there, somehow really good blogs, articles, whatever started to vanish in the last two years or so.